I give up.

I tried left and right to try to install an email server so I could degoogle my life.

But therechnical barrier is thick and Google keeps adding more to it. Forget it. I can’t even get thru the installation process much less trying to get my shit off Google.

I figure, I don’t actually have any need for my email addresses. Just like my phone number. I never call anyone. I’m going to discourage my kids from using email at all. I’ll remind everyone I know that I don’t use email at every opportunity I get just like I remind people to not call me and that my phone number is not available.

Between spammers and Google, I just don’t need this headache in my life. My mom is much less technically savvy than the average pet. So Google will just siphon her data and when the megabits are full then you just delete the old stuff.

You don’t need it. No one will spend their life reading your emails when you’re gone or watching your videos or listening to your recordings or viewing your photos. There’s no need to worry about just deleting the pile of shit you’ve accumulated. I’m this done.

    • Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      22 days ago

      Why people keep spreading this misinformation? It’s plainly not true and I am the living proof of that.

      Been using my email self hosted (on VPs) for decades now, never had serious issues at all. And it’s all my family primary addresses

      • zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        22 days ago

        One wrong config entry, and you have an open relay and a domain that can never be used for SMTP again, yay.

        Actually managing an email server properly is demanding, as it is one of the most attacked services. Of course, you can also take the easy route and just pray.

        • Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          22 days ago

          Sorry man, i understand your fears, but it’s not that difficult. Granted, you need to STUDY and UNDERSTAND what you do, it’s not just deploy a container and run. But hey, you can give up on learning new stuff and don’t run risks ever, in that case you should also stop driving a car, since it’s much more dangerous than running an open relay by error.

          Also, use mailcow stalwart or any other already packaged solution if you want to be safe.

          • zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            22 days ago

            I used mailcow, got an open relay immediately. Stalwart seems to do things a bit better.

            I host so many services and it is not that I don’t want to learn new stuff. The effort is simply too high for a single service. And since there are very good providers which fully encrypt your data, I went this route to keep my mind off this part of my system.

            • Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              22 days ago

              I fully understand your point, but the mailcow as open relay seems strange. Anyway, it’s a risk/cost tradeoff right? Everybody should do it’s own assessment and experimentation. But after the initial setup, it’s zero maintenance. The only maintenance i do is keep the stack regularly updated, and it broke twice in 20+ years (dovecot new config format, WTF…)